Guys Into Underwear

A group dedicated for guys who love underwear. It could be on you, on others or both. There is something sexy seeing a guy in nothing but undies.

Panties, pants, underpants, undies, briefs, knickers: call them what you will. Knickers come in all shapes and amounts of coverage of the bum from G-strings (practically no coverage), through thongs which usually cover the crevice but not the cheeks, through various proportions of the cheeks to full coverage as in vanity fair knickers. At the front, some G-strings cover little more than the pubic triangle but most other types of knickers lodge in or near the groin and reach various heights, some above the waist. A useful compilation of the variety available can be found at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0u1zaJMp0AM
and The Best Panty Styles for Your Bottom Type (youtube.com) 7.23
and by using the related sites at the side of the screen. Although presented as women's panties, if used with pads as detachable gussets, these could be used as unisex knickers.

NUDES AND BUMS

For centuries - millennia - nudes with bottoms of exaggerated size have been represented in drawings and statues. Perhaps most, but certainly not all, have been female.

Soon after photography was invented in the late 1830s, nudes were a favourite subject. 'Postcards' sold by shops such as newsagents and tobacconists were very popular in Paris (although they would be banned if sent through the post). Many concentrated on bottoms. Ample cheeks were very popular, some of them drawing inspiration from classical paintings and statues. Some were more explicitly sexual; open crevices showed her anus and vagina through to her clitoris. There was a full range of sexual positions, including toys in bum holes, lesbian, and occasionally, homosexual positions, penis in vagina or bum hole and the 69. Few wore underwear or shaved - not surprising as the safety razor as we know it became available only from 1901 following Gillette's invention.

Shaving armpits and legs became common with more revealing dresses and higher hemlines from the 1920s on but shaving the bum crevice and pubic hair became common only as late as the 1980s. For me, shaving seemed an effective way to increase enjoyment of my genitals and bum as soon as hair grew in appreciable quantity when I was about 16. I remember heads turning in swimming pool dressing rooms when I was at college: my shaven genitals and bum crevice were unusual in the late 1960s. Of course, there are many women and men who prefer a natural appearance. Vintage 1800 Porn Pics: Free Classic Nudes Vintage Cuties

After puberty, female hormone causes deposition of fatty tissues around the hips and thighs, whereas the male hormone discourages such deposition: a big bottom is therefore an indication of femininity and with the bigger female pelvis, an indication of ability to reproduce. In the town where I was brought up, the museum and art gallery has a big window near the entrance. In this window is a Venus statue about six feet tall. She is bending forward a little. From the inside of the gallery, she is partially covering herself with a drape as though she had hastily reached for a cloth to cover her modesty when the sculptor arrived with his chisel. From outside, her beautiful big bare bum provides a very appropriate welcome to the gallery.

However, men's as well as women's bottoms sometimes invite arousal: some men enjoy being penetrated by a penis or by a toy used by a man or a woman; the route to the prostate gland to help orgasm is via his bum hole. Some men have a tendency to put on weight around their hips and thighs, resulting in quite large bottoms in relation to their waists.

https://www.healthline.com/health/healthy-sex/anal-sex-safety

I have not had the full range of experiences explained in the article, but since reaching puberty when I was 13, I have enjoyed and developed some of them. For me, it has remained an early stage in masturbation, which I have enjoyed all my life since puberty. I have found nude yoga a wonderfully relaxing yet arousing experience. I feel it has helped me to prepare mentally and physically to get and maintain erections and to achieve more satisfying orgasms.

Some interesting theories and observations are contained in Cultural history of the buttocks - Wikipedia In view of the extensive interest in the bottom, it seems to me to be expected that many women would regard their panties as being of sexual interest.

KNICKERS FOR SEXUAL STIMULATION

In the nineteenth century, knickers had no gusset. They were in two attached halves with an open crotch, hence 'pair of knickers', 'pair of panties' etc. The open crotch was to allow going to the toilet without removing them or any of the heavy clothing fashionable at the time. Another purpose was surely warmth rather than sexual stimulation.

Women showing their frilly knickerbockers was used as a sexual stimulant for men earlier, but it seems to me that it must be unlikely that the feel of knickers on the cheeks could become a sexual stimulant for women until the 1930s with popularity of briefs covering the cheeks (but not the legs) - 'panty briefs'. Elastic yarn was also invented in the 1930s. The closed crotch and gusset allowed sanitary and menstrual arrangements without some kind of belt. Both menstrual pads and tampons were improved at around the same time.

Bras too began to take a shape fuller form like those of the present, emphasizing rather than reducing the appearance of the breasts (the word 'brassiere' was shortened to 'bra' in the 1930's). Also in the 1930's cup sizes using letters representing the size and firmness of the breasts began.

Men too received attention to their danglers in 1935 when Y-front briefs took shape by 'apparel engineer' Arthur Kneibler. Drawing attention to male genitals and caressing men's bums with 'panty briefs' must have seemed daring at the time. However, unlike the bra, they do not shape his testicles and penis or hold them up as something to celebrate. Nevertheless, the 1930's was surely a time when the modern woman (and man?) took shape.

The kinds of 'retro knickers' illustrated below date from the late 1930s and are still popular. The large gusset, especially at the back, was possibly a reaction to what was a new feature. Since the 1940's, briefs which are lower on the waist and cover less of the cheeks have become popular, alongside retention of more traditional styles and vanity fair panties which are high-waist and full cheek. Fabrics available have played a part in the development of knickers as a sexual implement but are not wholly responsible. From the mid 1930s, nylon quickly became popular, followed by other hard-wearing and then stretchy materials; but earlier fabrics such as cotton can be used to make attractive panties.

SEE THROUGH RETRO KNICKERS
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TRADITIONAL KNICKERS
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Sexual stimulation is often used as a selling point for ladies' panties. 'Vanity fair' is an expression often used by mainstream retailers on their on-line sites and high street stores for full-back, high waist knickers, many of them in soft satin, caressing the cheeks. There is a hint of self-indulgence, sin, decadence and transgression, perhaps relating to their stimulating effect in preparation for sexual pleasures. (Vanity Fair was originally described in Pilgrim's Progress by John Bunyan (1678) as a stop along the pilgrim's route where there was never-ending attachment to self-pleasure. Later, it was taken up by William Makepeace Thackeray in Vanity Fair (1848).) Some brands have a triangular net or lace inset at the side of each leg about 3 or 4 inches wide at the leg hole rising to an apex about the same distance above - leading thoughts to the forbidden fruits within?

VANITY FAIR KNICKERS
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The trend towards smaller knickers becoming popular alongside more traditional styles took a big step forward in the early 1980s with the popularity thongs and even smaller G-strings. Smaller knickers had gradually become increasingly popular, some styles covering less of the cheeks, but G-strings and thongs slip into the nick; they focus sexual stimulation on the bum crevice, especially the hole, and the genitals; they recognise the bum hole as a sexual stimulant. I find that exposure of my cheeks in thongs gives some stimulation to my cheeks as well.

Perhaps it was not a coincidence that G-strings and thongs became popular at the same time as shaving. Although becoming sore is a risk, especially if shaven, some prefer not to show their pubic hair or bum hair extending beyond their knickers (or swimming costume). Preferences vary.

A History of Women's Underwear - Local Histories

G-STRINGS AND THONGS
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In the early days of Internet shopping, a friend and former colleague of mine left where we worked to set up her own on-line underwear shop specialising in items intended to help stimulation. Not all of them are like the minimal creations on display alongside the dildos and other sex toys in the sex shop near where we both worked. She designs the underwear but always welcomes ideas from others; stimulating underwear should be available for men and women of all shapes and sizes who want it. 'For many women as well as men arousal is important in choosing their underwear: I spend a lot of time trying to find out and cater for their preferences' she says. She has an excellent business model as well a very attractive, plus-size figure: 'I enjoy the thongs and G-strings, but for everyday wear, I prefer something more substantial'.

'Secret' is a word sometimes used in connection with selling or advertising underwear with a hint that it is something to be hidden but with a temptation of transgression by showing it. Our knickers are usually the last item of clothing to be removed before becoming completely naked: they might lead thoughts to what comes next. How many women have worn mini-skirts to lead the eyes up a woman's thighs and beyond to reveal her secret, especially if there is a breeze or when she is going up or down stairs or bending over?

Some kinds of coloured underwear is similar to swimwear or beachwear and can be used for both. This takes away the element of secrecy associated with underwear and maybe some of the arousal quality? On the other hand, it is not uncommon in some seaside towns for both men and women to spend a lunch break on the beach wearing only their knickers. And why not? Thongs as beachwear give much less cover than traditional or vanity fair knickers. But arousal is not just about how much of our skin is covered. Some kinds of knickers, such as nets or sheer see through knickers can cover the whole of the area covered by full cut briefs but allow a clear view of the bum crevice; or a gusset to remind everyone what it is for, or a see-through triangle at the side as in vanity fair knickers.


In tennis and some other sports there is ambiguity about women showing their panties. Some clubs have regulations about the kinds which are allowed. In the past, I have had several neighbours who have hung out their underwear in prominent positions on clothes lines in their gardens, perhaps in the hope that neighbours will see them and imagine their owners wearing them? The Internet has allowed an explosion in women of all ages, shapes and sizes showing themselves in their underwear.

Our knickers are a reminder of our thrills and spills, a reminder of precious erotic moments such as an unexpected ejaculation, wet dream or other bodily leakage. Near to where I live is a country park where there is a tree on which some ladies hang their used knickers, some of them with a telephone number attached. Rather than throw away their bras and panties when they have finished with them, some ladies will leave them in prominent positions (such as the bush in my front garden). Used panties are a very intimate gift between woman and man.
The greatest number of orgasms I have had in one day is five when I was 23. It was a sunny summer day. I sat on a bench in our local park. A lady of around 40 came along appearing to be in some distress. She hesitated before sitting down on the bench. We passed the time of day for a few minutes, then she began to pour out her troubles. I listened attentively adding just a few occasional comments in sympathy. After perhaps half an hour she thanked me for listening and stood up to leave. She paused, then slipped her hands underneath her pretty summer dress. She took off her panties and handed them to me, thanking me again before walking away. I was already fully erect before sniffing the gusset of her big white maxi-briefs. Only rarely have I had an orgasm and ejaculation without being naked, but I had one there and then. I went home to take my clothes off. For the rest of the day I couldn't take my mind off her knickers for very long; I had 4 more orgasms that day. I still keep her panties in my knickers drawer.
INCONTINENCE
Many people are reticent to talk about bodily leakage into their underwear. Many kinds of underwear, both male and female, have a double layer or gusset where there is likely to be a small amount of leakage, supplemented with panty liners.
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There is some imprecision in defining what is incontinence. How much leakage makes someone incontinent? How often must a considerable accident have to occur for someone to be incontinent? Since puberty at 13 I used paper towels and other extra protection for both outlets.
For those who are more heavily incontinent, protective wear is often thought of as being in two groups: pull-ups and diapers. Pull-ups are those which are held in place by a continuous waistband like normal underwear; diapers are those which open at the waist. Each of these two main groups have many varieties. Some of those with a continuous waistband are sometimes referred to as 'diapers'. Perhaps whether they open at the waist or pull up is not important - but it does make some difference to how they are put on and changed and to their appearance: pull-ups are closer in appearance to normal underwear, a significant consideration to some users. It is also related to their capacity and level of protection: low capacity pants are usually pull-ups whereas high capacities can be accommodated by either pull-ups or diapers.
Finding the best kind of protection is a big concern. Brand names are often used instead of generic names; even generic names are not always precisely used with the same meaning. I am often left confused about what kind of incontinence wear is being referred to.
The sex of the intended user is not always specified on the packet. Maybe there is no need: perhaps it should be left to the user to choose whether they feel it would be suitable for them.
There are several types of incontinence with different amounts and regimes of leakage (Urinary incontinence - NHS (nhs.uk; Bowel incontinence - NHS (nhs.uk)): which partly accounts for the variety of protection. A good way to start the search for suitable protection is the Internet. Typing 'How to choose incontinence wear' into your search engine will reveal much useful advice but it will be as well to remember that most of it is posted by firms who sell incontinence products. A click on incontinence pants - Google Search or incontinence knickers - Google Search reveals some of the enormous variety. This can be followed by choosing a few of what look the closest to your needs; then a click on these sites to follow through with your requirements - size, level of absorption, appearance, cost ....
Types of Incontinence Wear: PULL-UPS
There are many kinds of adapted pants and knickers on the market for light incontinence. There are many brands of washable or disposable pants and knickers adapted to take pads or with absorbent areas. Some are intended to be single-sex. The pads when sold separately can be single- or unisex. Fixation pants and knickers are non-absorbent; it is the incontinence pad that they 'fix' (hold in place) that is absorbent. Many are unisex - no front exit. The manufacturers often just refer to them by their brand name chosen to give a hint of what they are.
They are more stretchy than is usual for ordinary underwear and so take a pad more readily. The pad can be unisex or female according to the length at the front. Ladies who have heavy incontinence might prefer a longer front as for unisex pads.
Most kinds of pants or knickers for light incontinence are pull-ups but some can be used for much heavier leakages.
Whether the pad is fixed to the pants, such as in a pocket, or just covered by them might be significant for those who have an active lifestyle. Some fixation pants allow the pad to be moved a little in them.
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Types of Incontinence Wear: DIAPERS
These open out flat. A large absorbent pad to covers the area likely to be affected by urine or faeces. Usually they have plastic sides with one or two adhesive tabs, or in some kinds of diaper, 3 or 4 studs on each side to hold them securely around the body between the groin and the waist. Diapers can be bulky: some users would feel that they would not like to wear close-fitting trousers or other outer wear which would reveal the outline. They can also make a crinkling sound as the wearer moves.
Cloth diapers (USA)/nappies (UK) are made of square, absorbent, washable material held in place by safety pins or something more modern. There are many brands of cloth diapers/nappies shaped like plastic ones with fastening studs at each side. Occasionally they are referred to as 'napkins' but in the UK, this is more usual for smaller squares of lighter material used at the dinner table to clear up stray bits of food from around the mouth or fingers or to prevent the soiling of clothes - similar in purpose to nappies but at the other end of the alimentary canal. In the UK, 'nappies' usually refer to babies: some adults would be offended if their incontinence wear were referred to in this way.
Some kinds of incontinence wear consist of a waistband to which a pad with adhesive patches fixes to it. I am unsure whether these are pull-ups or diapers or neither; they are just pads with a means of holding them in place but not covering them. I was issued with some on an overnight hospital stay: on returning home I got rid of them as soon as possible.
Pants made of plastic, rubber or other waterproof material can be worn over any of these types of incontinence wear for extra protection.
Diapers, pull-ups, fixation pants, nets or knickers with many brand names are really all variations of ways to hold a pad of absorbent material in place and to be able to get access to it as needed. The differences between the variety of incontinence wear amount to a few features: amount of absorbency; whether they open with tapes or studs (diapers), usually at the sides or whether they are sufficiently stretchy so that no opening is needed (pull-ups or fixation pants); material used: waterproof (usually plastic or rubber) or textile; washable or disposable. This is likely to affect cost. My washable fixation pants cost very little - around 1 each depending on brand, type and quantity. I use only about six per year. I use one disposable pad per day costing around 35p.
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A PERSONAL CHOICE

When I was 13, I began to feel exciting sensations as I had never experienced before: waves of titillating pleasure in my bum cheeks and the whole of the crevice, especially my hole, right through to my developing testicles and up to the end of my penis. As I lay naked in bed, I felt that I had to fondle and stroke: suddenly I experienced a surge of delight as I had never felt before as out came a spurt of creamy liquid. Right from the start of when I began to masturbate, I was aware that my bum cheeks and hole were erogenous areas and how they helped me. I would fix mirrors in positions to allow me to see my cheeks and bum hole as I masturbated. Ever since I started to masturbate, I have used my bum, both cheeks and hole, as an early stage leading to an orgasm.

All my erogenous areas are inside my knickers. I have never found stroking my nipples stimulating, as some men do; neither have I ever used my mouth in becoming aroused. Keeping my foreskin rolled back keeps me erect or nearly so for much of the day. I find that this helps to keep me at least partially erect which gives me a feeling of well-being and helps me mentally. Having got into the habit of keeping my foreskin lodged under the overhang of my glans, soon I was using paper towels to soak up dribbles of urine and semen, and also to fold into my bum crack.

The thoughts going through my mind have always been protection of my outer clothes, arousal and appearance. Finding the knickers of my choice has been a long journey; perhaps it is not finished. I started with Marks and Spencer's male white briefs. I liked their appearance; the front gusset extending up to the waist allowed my penis to point upwards; the hollow knitted waistband was durable and allowed me to pee over the top or to take them down easily. I have also tried other kinds and brands with a front exit in the form of an inverted Y. I have never really liked front exits: they fit only a limp penis pointing downwards and even then I did not find that I could urinate conveniently through the exit. I felt that they left my penis and bollocks scrunched up in a small bag rather than something to hold up and enjoy.

Then I tried thongs. As I tend to put on weight around my hips and thighs, I thought they might suit me. Although I do not have particularly big genitals, I could not find any thongs which covered me pointing upwards; so I got to work on an old sewing machine and made some. I like the feel in my nick and bare cheeks, although sometimes I feel a little soreness when worn all day. Maybe I should not have shaved.

UNISEX KNICKERS

I have often wondered why so much underwear is marketed as male or female. Why not just leave it to the customer to decide what they would like to wear? Some advertised as male have no front exit or gusset: there seems to be nothing specifically male about them. Often I have thought that I would like to wear something like women's plain white maxi-briefs. Ladies' knickers are better for peeing over the top or sitting down because of their more stretchy, more durable waistband. The gusset, however, would need to be either in two forms, male and female: to be genuinely unisex, there would need to be a detachable gusset or pad. Pads have the advantages of being able to adjust the amount and location of protection and the knickers do not need to be changed so frequently. For these reasons, unisex knickers with pads are my preferred choice.

In 2013 I had an accident resulting in spinal injury at the base of my neck with paralysis from there down, spasticity (muscle contractions and spasms) and double incontinence. Both my anus and my urethra have been left closed except with manual intervention: I hardly ever pass urine via the usual route (I have a suprapubic catheter); nurses visit on alternate days to give me a bowel evacuation.

My current choice is white unisex knickers (Abena Abri Fix large ref: 9251 or Allanda iD Expert Ultra Large ref: 5400300250). They can be washed many times and last more than three months. They are made of lightweight lycra netting, and having no gusset, are intended to hold a pad - effectively a disposable gusset. I wear an Abri San Premium 5 pad, big enough to extend from an inch or so below my navel to the top of my bum crevice, capacity 1,200 ml. (Other pads with larger capacities are available). My pad is only an insurance against occasional bowel leakage when I have eaten something that does not agree with me. I have no more leakages than I had before my accident but I am now less able to deal with them.

I find that knickers such as these tend to be tight around my groin, the boundary between the top of my leg and my pubic triangle and cheeks, so I buy a size larger than my waist measurement indicates (I am about 37-33-39). They can be pulled up to my waist, when the sides are about 8 inches or rolled down to 2 or 3 inches. I keep my foreskin lodged under the overhang of my glans; my penis points upwards with my knob-end, scrotum and bum hole rubbing against my pad.

Since I was given some by a lady friend, I have been buying Abri Fix pants super Large ref: 90693. These have very short legs which I roll up into my groin and along the base of my cheeks to form briefs. They reduce the issue of tightness. Like the nets, they are made of polyester and elastane but the thicker material makes the pad hardly visible. Knickers with very short legs which can be worn as briefs are sometimes called cuff knickers or boy shorts.

CUFF KNICKERS & BOY SHORTS
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RE:Knickers

Panties, pants, underpants, undies, briefs, knickerpants knickers: call them what you will. Knickers come in all shapes and amounts of coverage of the bum from G-strings (practically no coverage), through thongs which usually cover the crevice but not the cheeks, through various proportions of the cheeks to full coverage as in vanity fair knickers. At the front, some G-strings cover little more than the pubic triangle but most other types of knickers lodge in or near the groin and reach various heights, some above the waist. A useful compilation of the variety available can be found at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0u1zaJMp0AM
and The Best Panty Styles for Your Bottom Type (youtube.com) 7.23
and by using the related sites at the side of the screen. Although presented as women's panties, if used with pads as detachable gussets, these could be used as unisex knickers.

NUDES AND BUMS

For centuries - millennia - nudes with bottoms of exaggerated size have been represented in drawings and statues. Perhaps most, but certainly not all, have been female.

Soon after photography was invented in the late 1830s, nudes were a favourite subject. 'Postcards' sold by shops such as newsagents and tobacconists were very popular in Paris (although they would be banned if sent through the post). Many concentrated on bottoms. Ample cheeks were very popular, some of them drawing inspiration from classical paintings and statues. Some were more explicitly sexual; open crevices showed her anus and vagina through to her clitoris. There was a full range of sexual positions, including toys in bum holes, lesbian, and occasionally, homosexual positions, penis in vagina or bum hole and the 69. Few wore underwear or shaved - not surprising as the safety razor as we know it became available only from 1901 following King C. Gillette's invention.

Shaving armpits and legs became common with more revealing dresses and higher hemlines from the 1920s, but shaving the bum crevice and pubic hair became common only as late as the 1980s. For me, shaving seemed an effective way to increase enjoyment of my male parts and bum as soon as hair grew in appreciable quantity when I was about 16. Of course, there are many women and men who prefer a natural appearance. Vintage 1800 Porn Pics: Free Classic Nudes Vintage Cuties

After puberty, female hormone causes deposition of fatty tissues around the hips and thighs, whereas the male hormone discourages such deposition: a big bottom is therefore an indication of femininity and with the bigger female pelvis, an indication of ability to reproduce. In the town where I was brought up, the museum and art gallery has a big window near the entrance. In this window is a Venus statue about six feet tall. She is bending forward a little. From the inside of the gallery, she is partially covering herself with a drape as though she had hastily reached for a cloth to cover her modesty when the sculptor arrived with his chisel. From outside, her big bare bum provides a very appropriate welcome to the gallery.

However, men's as well as women's bottoms sometimes invite arousal: some men enjoy being penetrated by a penis or by a toy used by a man or a woman; the route to the prostate gland to help orgasm is via his bum hole. Some men have a tendency to put on weight around their hips and thighs, resulting in quite large bottoms in relation to their waists.

https://www.healthline.com/health/healthy-sex/anal-sex-safety

I have not had the full range of experiences explained in the article, but since reaching puberty when I was 13, I have enjoyed and developed some of them. Ever since then, anal stimulation has remained an early stage in masturbation, which I have enjoyed all my life since puberty. I have found nude yoga a wonderfully relaxing yet arousing experience. I feel it has helped me to prepare mentally and physically to get and maintain erections and to achieve more satisfying orgasms.

Some interesting theories and observations are contained in Cultural history of the buttocks - Wikipedia In view of the extensive interest in the bottom, it seems to me to be expected that many women would regard their panties as being of sexual interest.

KNICKERS FOR AROUSAL

In the nineteenth century, knickers had no gusset. They were in two attached halves with an open crotch, hence 'pair of knickers', 'pair of panties' etc. The open crotch was to allow going to the toilet without removing them or any of the heavy clothing fashionable at the time. Another purpose was surely warmth rather than sexual stimulation.

Women showing their frilly knickerbockers was used as a sexual stimulant for men earlier, but it seems to me that it must be unlikely that the feel of knickers on the cheeks could become a sexual stimulant for women until the 1930s with popularity of briefs covering the cheeks (but not the legs) - 'panty briefs'. Elastic yarn was also invented in the 1930s. The closed crotch and gusset allowed sanitary and menstrual arrangements without some kind of belt. Both menstrual pads and tampons were improved at around the same time.

Bras too began to take a shape fuller form like those of the present, emphasizing rather than reducing the appearance of the breasts (the word 'brassiere' was shortened to 'bra' in the 1930s). Also in the 1930s cup sizes using letters representing the size and firmness of the breasts began.

Men too received attention to their danglers in 1935 when Y-front briefs took shape by 'apparel engineer' Arthur Kneibler. Drawing attention to male genitals and caressing men's bums must have seemed daring at the time. Unlike the bra, they do not shape his male parts or hold them up as something to celebrate. Nevertheless, the 1930s was surely a time when the modern woman and to a lesser extent man, took shape.

The kinds of 'retro knickers' illustrated below date from the late 1930s and are still popular. The large gusset, especially at the back, was possibly a reaction to what was a new feature. Since the 1940s, briefs which are lower on the waist and cover less of the cheeks have become popular, alongside retention of more traditional styles and vanity fair panties which are high-waist and full cheek. Fabrics available have played a part in the development of knickers as a sexual implement but are not wholly responsible. From the mid 1930s, nylon quickly became popular, followed by other hard-wearing and then stretchy materials; but earlier fabrics such as cotton can be used to make attractive panties.

SEE THROUGH RETRO KNICKERS
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TRADITIONAL KNICKERS
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Sexual stimulation is often used as a selling point for ladies' panties. 'Vanity fair' is an expression often used by mainstream retailers on their on-line sites and high street stores for full-back, high waist knickers, many of them in soft satin. There is a hint of self-indulgence, sin, decadence and transgression, perhaps relating to their stimulating effect in preparation for sexual pleasures. (Vanity Fair was originally described in Pilgrim's Progress by John Bunyan (1678) as a stop along the pilgrim's route where there was never-ending attachment to self-pleasure. Later, it was taken up by William Makepeace Thackeray in Vanity Fair (1848).) Some brands have a triangular net or lace inset at the side of each leg about 3 or 4 inches wide at the leg hole rising to an apex about the same distance above - leading thoughts to the forbidden fruits within?

VANITY FAIR KNICKERS
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The trend towards smaller knickers becoming popular (alongside more traditional styles) took a big step forward in the early 1980s with the popularity thongs and even smaller G-strings. Smaller knickers had gradually become increasingly popular, some styles covering less of the cheeks, but G-strings and thongs slip into the nick; they focus sexual stimulation on the bum crevice, especially the anus, and the genitals; they recognise the bum hole as a sexual stimulant.

Perhaps it was not a coincidence that G-strings and thongs became popular at the same time as shaving. Although becoming sore is a risk, especially if shaven, some prefer not to show their pubic hair or bum hair extending beyond their knickers (or swimming costume). Preferences vary.

A History of Women's Underwear - Local Histories

G-STRINGS
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THONGS
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In the early days of Internet shopping, a friend and former colleague of mine left where we worked to set up her own on-line underwear shop specialising in items intended to help arousal. Not all of them are like the minimal creations on display alongside the dildos and other sex toys in the sex shop near where we both worked. She designs the underwear but always welcomes ideas from others; stimulating underwear should be available for men and women of all shapes and sizes who want it. 'For many women as well as men arousal is important in choosing their underwear: I spend a lot of time trying to find out and cater for their preferences' she says. She has an excellent business model as well a very attractive, plus-size figure: 'I enjoy the thongs and G-strings, but for everyday wear, I prefer something more substantial'.

'Secret' is a word sometimes used in connection with selling or advertising underwear with a hint that it is something to be hidden but with a temptation of transgression by showing it. Our knickers are usually the last item of clothing to be removed before becoming completely naked: they might lead thoughts to what comes next. How many women have worn mini-skirts to lead the eyes up a woman's thighs and beyond to reveal her secret, especially if there is a breeze or when she is going up or down stairs or bending over?

Some kinds of coloured underwear is similar to swimwear or beachwear and can be used for both. This takes away the element of secrecy associated with underwear and maybe some of the arousal quality? On the other hand, it is not uncommon in some seaside towns for both men and women to spend a lunch break on the beach wearing only their knickers. And why not? Thongs as beachwear give much less cover than traditional or vanity fair knickers. But arousal is not just about how much of our skin is covered. Some kinds of knickers, such as nets or sheer see through knickers can cover the whole of the area covered by full cut briefs but allow a clear view of the bum crevice; or a gusset to remind everyone what it is for, or a see-through triangle at the side as in vanity fair knickers.


In tennis and some other sports there is ambiguity about women showing their panties. Some clubs have regulations about the kinds which are allowed. In the past, I have had several neighbours who have hung out their underwear in prominent positions on clothes lines in their gardens, perhaps in the hope that neighbours will see them and imagine their owners wearing them? The Internet has allowed an explosion in women of all ages, shapes and sizes showing themselves in their underwear.

Our knickers are a reminder of our thrills and spills, a reminder of precious erotic moments such as an unexpected ejaculation, wet dream or other bodily leakage. Near to where I live is a country park where there is a tree on which some ladies hang their used knickers, some of them with a telephone number attached. Rather than throw away their bras and panties when they have finished with them, some ladies will leave them in prominent positions (such as the bush in my front garden). Used panties are a very intimate gift between woman and man.
The greatest number of orgasms I have had in one day is five when I was 23. It was a sunny summer day. I sat on a bench in our local park. A lady of around 40 came along appearing to be in some distress. She hesitated before sitting down on the bench. We passed the time of day for a few minutes, then she began to pour out her troubles. I listened attentively adding just a few occasional comments in sympathy. After perhaps half an hour she thanked me for listening and stood up to leave. She paused, then slipped her hands underneath her pretty summer dress. She took off her panties and handed them to me, thanking me again before walking away. I was already fully erect before sniffing the gusset of her big white maxi-briefs. Only rarely have I had an orgasm and ejaculation without being naked, but I had one there and then. I went home to take my clothes off. For the rest of the day I couldn't take my mind off her knickers for very long; I had 4 more orgasms that day. I still keep her panties in my knickers drawer.
LEAKAGE
Many people are reticent to talk about bodily leakage into their underwear. Many kinds of underwear, both male and female, have a double layer or gusset where there is likely to be a small amount of leakage, supplemented with panty liners.
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There is some imprecision in defining what is incontinence. How much leakage makes someone incontinent? How often must a considerable accident have to occur for someone to be incontinent? Since puberty at 13 I used paper towels and other extra protection for both outlets.
For those who are more heavily incontinent, protective wear is often thought of as being in two groups: pull-ups and diapers. Pull-ups are those which are held in place by a continuous waistband like normal underwear; diapers are those which open at the waist. Each of these two main groups have many varieties. Some of those with a continuous waistband are sometimes referred to as 'diapers'. Perhaps whether they open at the waist or pull up is not important - but it does make some difference to how they are put on and changed and to their appearance: pull-ups are closer in appearance to normal underwear, a significant consideration to some users. It is also related to their capacity and level of protection: low capacity pants are usually pull-ups whereas high capacities can be accommodated by either pull-ups or diapers.
Finding the best kind of protection is a big concern. Brand names are often used instead of generic names; even generic names are not always precisely used with the same meaning.
The sex of the intended user is not always specified on the packet. Maybe there is no need: perhaps it should be left to the user to choose whether they feel it would be suitable for them.
There are several types of incontinence with different amounts and regimes of leakage (Urinary incontinence - NHS (nhs.uk; Bowel incontinence - NHS (nhs.uk)): which partly accounts for the variety of protection. A good way to start the search for suitable protection is the Internet. Typing 'How to choose incontinence wear' into your search engine will reveal much useful advice but it will be as well to remember that most of it is posted by firms who sell incontinence products. A click on incontinence pants - Google Search or incontinence knickers - Google Search reveals some of the enormous variety. This can be followed by choosing a few of what look the closest to your needs; then a click on these sites to follow through with your requirements - size, level of absorption, appearance, cost ....
Types of Incontinence Wear: PULL-UPS
There are many kinds of adapted pants and knickers on the market for light incontinence. There are many brands of washable or disposable pants and knickers adapted to take pads or with absorbent areas. Some are intended to be single-sex. The pads when sold separately can be single- or unisex. Fixation pants and knickers are non-absorbent; it is the incontinence pad that they 'fix' (hold in place) that is absorbent. Many are unisex - no front exit. The manufacturers often just refer to them by their brand name chosen to give a hint of what they are.
They are more stretchy than is usual for ordinary underwear and so take a pad more readily. The pad can be unisex or female according to the length at the front. Ladies who have heavy incontinence might prefer a longer front as for unisex pads.
Most kinds of pants or knickers for light incontinence are pull-ups but some can be used for much heavier leakages.
Whether the pad is fixed to the pants, such as in a pocket, or just covered by them might be significant for those who have an active lifestyle. Some fixation pants allow the pad to be moved a little in them.
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Types of Incontinence Wear: DIAPERS
These open out flat. A large absorbent pad to covers the area likely to be affected by urine or faeces. Usually they have plastic sides with one or two adhesive tabs, or in some kinds of diaper, 3 or 4 studs on each side to hold them securely around the body between the groin and the waist. Diapers can be bulky: some users would feel that they would not like to wear close-fitting trousers or other outer wear which would reveal the outline. They can also make a crinkling sound as the wearer moves.
Cloth diapers (USA)/nappies (UK) are made of square, absorbent, washable material held in place by safety pins or something more modern. There are many brands of cloth diapers/nappies shaped like plastic ones with fastening studs at each side. Occasionally they are referred to as 'napkins' but in the UK, this is more usual for smaller squares of lighter material used at the dinner table to clear up stray bits of food from around the mouth or fingers or to prevent the soiling of clothes - similar in purpose to nappies but at the other end of the alimentary canal. In the UK, 'nappies' usually refer to babies: some adults would be offended if their incontinence wear were referred to in this way.
Some kinds of incontinence wear consist of a waistband to which a pad with adhesive patches fixes to it. I am unsure whether these are pull-ups or diapers or neither; they are just pads with a means of holding them in place but not covering them. I was issued with some on an overnight hospital stay: on returning home I got rid of them as soon as possible.
Pants made of plastic, rubber or other waterproof material can be worn over any of these types of incontinence wear for extra protection.
Diapers, pull-ups, fixation pants, nets or knickers with many brand names are really all variations of ways to hold a pad of absorbent material in place and to be able to get access to it as needed. The differences between the variety of incontinence wear amount to a few features: amount of absorbency; whether they open with tapes or studs (diapers), usually at the sides or whether they are sufficiently stretchy so that no opening is needed (pull-ups or fixation pants); material used: waterproof (usually plastic or rubber) or textile; washable or disposable. This is likely to affect cost. My washable fixation pants cost very little - around 1 each depending on brand, type and quantity. They can be washed many times. I use one disposable pad per day costing around 35p.
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A PERSONAL CHOICE

When I was 13, I began to feel exciting sensations as I had never experienced before: waves of titillating pleasure in my bum cheeks and the whole of the crevice, especially my hole, right through to my developing testicles and up to the end of my penis. As I lay naked in bed, I felt that I had to fondle and stroke: suddenly I experienced a surge of delight as I had never felt before as out came a spurt of creamy liquid. Right from the start of when I began to masturbate, I was aware that my bum cheeks and hole were erogenous areas and how they helped me. I would fix mirrors in positions to allow me to see my cheeks and bum hole as I masturbated. Ever since I started to masturbate, I have used my bum, both cheeks and hole, as an early stage leading to an orgasm.

All my erogenous areas are inside my knickers. I have never found stroking my nipples stimulating, as some men do; neither have I ever used my mouth in becoming aroused. Keeping my foreskin rolled back helps to keep me at least partially erect, which gives me a feeling of well-being and helps me mentally. Having got into the habit of keeping my foreskin lodged under the overhang of my glans, soon I was using paper towels to soak up dribbles of urine and semen, and also to fold into my bum crack.

The thoughts going through my mind have always been protection of my outer clothes, arousal and appearance. Finding the underwear of my choice has been a long journey; perhaps it is not finished. I started with Marks and Spencer's male white briefs. I liked their appearance; the front gusset extending up to the waist allowed my penis to point upwards; the hollow knitted waistband was durable and allowed me to pee over the top or to take them down easily. I have also tried other kinds and brands with a front exit in the form of an inverted Y. I have never really liked front exits: they fit only a limp penis pointing downwards and even then I did not find that I could urinate conveniently through the exit. I felt that they left my male parts scrunched up in a small bag rather than something to hold up and enjoy.

Then I tried thongs. As I tend to put on weight around my hips and thighs, I thought they might suit me. Although I do not have particularly big male parts, I could not find any thongs which covered me pointing upwards; so I got to work on an old sewing machine and made some. I like the feel in my nick and bare cheeks, although sometimes I feel a little soreness when worn all day. Maybe I should not have shaved.

UNISEX KNICKERS

I have often wondered why so much underwear is marketed as male or female. Why not just leave it to the customer to decide what they would like to wear? Some advertised as male have no front exit or gusset: there seems to be nothing specifically male about them. Often I have thought that I would like to wear something like women's plain white maxi-briefs. Ladies' knickers are better for peeing over the top or sitting down because of their more stretchy, more durable waistband. To be genuinely unisex, there would need to be a detachable gusset or pad. Pads have the advantages of being able to adjust the amount and location of protection and the knickers do not need to be changed so frequently. For these reasons, unisex knickers with pads are my preferred choice.

In 2013 I had an accident resulting in spinal injury at the base of my neck with paralysis from there down, spasticity (muscle contractions and spasms) and double incontinence. Both my anus and my urethra have been left closed except with manual intervention: I hardly ever pass urine via the usual route (I have a suprapubic catheter); nurses visit on alternate days to give me a bowel evacuation.

My current choice is white unisex knickers (Abena Abri Fix large ref: 9251 or Allanda iD Expert Ultra Large ref: 5400300250). They are quite hard-wearing and can be washed many times. They are made of lightweight lycra netting, and having no fixed gusset, are intended to hold a pad - effectively a disposable gusset. I wear an Abri San Premium 5 pad, big enough to extend from an inch or so below my navel to the top of my bum crevice, capacity 1,200 ml. (Other pads with larger capacities are available). With my foreskin permanently back, I can rub all my erogenous parts against my pad to give a sense of well-being. My pad soaks up semen overflows and occasionally, ejaculations, but only very rarely do I pass any urine into it. It is also an insurance against occasional bowel leakage when I have eaten something that does not agree with me. I have no more leakages than I had before my accident but I am now less able to deal with them.

I find that knickers such as these tend to be tight around my groin, the boundary between the top of my leg and my pubic triangle and cheeks, so I buy a size larger than my waist measurement indicates (I am about 37-33-39). They can be pulled up to my waist, when the sides are about 8 inches or rolled down to 2 or 3 inches.

Since I was given some by a lady friend, I have also been wearing Abri Fix pants super Large ref: 90693. These have very short legs which I roll up into my groin and along the base of my cheeks to form briefs. They reduce the issue of tightness. Like the nets, they are made of polyester and elastane but the thicker material makes the pad hardly visible. Pants with very short legs which can be worn as briefs are sometimes called cuff knickers or boy shorts.

CUFF KNICKERS & BOY SHORTS
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